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1500pts list. C&C wanted

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Zero

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1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostSat Aug 11, 2018 11:29 am

What do you think about this list?

Standard Army
Clash: 1480/1500 points
Standard Army
Standard Roster [1480/1500 pts]

Oppressors [303 pts]
Desolator: Desolator(Champion) [195 pts]
Reavers: 2x Reaver [108 pts]

Vanguard [292 pts]
Hunter Squad: 3x Hunter, Marauder [146 pts]
Hunter Squad: 3x Hunter, Marauder [146 pts]

Warriors [485 pts]
Aged Ones: 3x Aged Ones, Marauder, 2x Invader [201 pts]
^ Sharing ^ Aged Ones: 3x Aged Ones [126 pts]
Reaper Squad: 3x Reaper, Marauder [158 pts]

Occupation Patrol [400 pts]
Prowlers: 8x Prowler, 2x Intruder Beta [120 pts]
Destroyers: 2x Destroyers, Intruder Alpha [140 pts]
Destroyers: 2x Destroyers, Intruder Alpha [140 pts]

That's pretty much all I have. Comments and suggestions would be very welcome :)
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostSat Aug 11, 2018 9:03 pm

It needs more AA. In fact any AA would be good :)

I'd change the Aged Ones back to Warriors, cheaper and you get back to the 12" Combined E11 shot then
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 1:24 pm

Thanks for replying! :)

farrier wrote:It needs more AA. In fact any AA would be good :)

I own a second squad of Reapers, but really don't like them: very short range and 6+ to hit if targeting non-flyers.
Planning to get one set of Ravagers, but I wanted to play a few more games before purchasing more stuff.

I'd change the Aged Ones back to Warriors, cheaper and you get back to the 12" Combined E11 shot then

Really? In the few games I've played Aged Ones did very well, compared to regular Warriors, and I barely had the chance to shoot from building windows...
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostMon Aug 13, 2018 3:19 pm

Apologies, I didn't see your Reaper squad in there. I would definitely take another though, they have a short range but 9" MF which makes up for it.

Ref. the Aged Ones, I don't think they are worth the upgrade but YMMV, I do, however, like the E11 shot that Warriors get :)
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostThu Aug 16, 2018 5:56 am

Need more battlegroups, always have 6 battlegroups in a clash.

Probably need more infantry.
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostSat Aug 18, 2018 4:44 pm

Played a game with this list and yes, definitely I need more AA and more infantry. With 5 objectives on the table I was in a bad position comparing with my opponent.

What would you suggest to buy?
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostSun Aug 19, 2018 7:36 am

Drop the Aged ones, they are far to expensive for what they do. One option to change little is this:


Suggestion
Clash: 1499/1500 points
Standard Army
Standard Roster [1499/1500 pts]
Oppressors [195 pts]
Desolator: Desolator(Champion) [195 pts]
Vanguard [216 pts]
Hunter Squad: 3x Hunter, Marauder(+2 Vampires) [162 pts]
Reavers: Reaver [54 pts]
Vanguard [256 pts]
Hunter Squad: 3x Hunter, Marauder [146 pts]
Screamers: Screamer, Raider [110 pts]
Warriors [282 pts]
Warrior Horde: 2x Warriors, Intruder Alpha [94 pts]
Warrior Horde: 2x Warriors, Intruder Alpha [94 pts]
Warrior Horde: 2x Warriors, Intruder Alpha [94 pts]
Occupation Patrol [336 pts]
Destroyers: 2x Destroyers, Intruder Alpha [140 pts]
Destroyers: 2x Destroyers, Intruder Alpha [140 pts]
Minders: 4x Minder, Intruder Beta [56 pts]
Occupation Patrol [214 pts]
Minders: 4x Minder, Intruder Beta [56 pts]
Reaper Squad: 3x Reaper, Marauder [158 pts]


There you are missing 3 Intruder Alpha, 8 Minder and the Screamer+Raider (the 2 Vampires are optional they are literally filler). It has a bit more AA (the Minders) but still all of it is short ranged and primed for offensive use (drop minders next to enemy Infantry transports preferably after they acted). But most importantly you have 6 Battlegroups, 5 Infantry Squads and similar staying power in CQB (thanks to the Screamer).

Personally I am more of a Eviserator fan then a Destroyer one but with a Screamer and Raider the latter can work as well. Also for AA I would prefer the Ravagers though it depends on your opponents if you face mostly A6 flyers keep the Reapers.

Lastly in the current rule version APCs based squads perform poorly (aside from a few exceptions) this changes with V 2.0 so there you will use your APCs again. Alternatively you could give them to the Destroyers if you want to save money. Not as optimal as Intruders but workable.

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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostThu Aug 23, 2018 11:37 am

Thanks! I'll add models you suggested to the buy list. The Screamer looks interesting and fun, but sure is one ugly model ^^;
As said, I was considering Ravagers and finally oredered one blister. Would you suggest me to get the transport, too? 4" per turne, they're pretty slow, isn't it?
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostThu Aug 23, 2018 6:17 pm

Assuming you're using v2 rules (because they're cool! :) ), you defo need a harbinger transport for your ravagers - otherwise you'll be rolling for reserves (we use the v1 table; as v2 beta doesn't list this yet) from turn 2 and that's a big risk for your AA bubble.

Also, agree you need a 6th battle group.

As you're fielding 6 hunters and 3 reapers you may wish to put a despoiler on your shopping list- will free up some points.......
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Re: 1500pts list. C&C wanted

PostFri Aug 24, 2018 4:11 pm

Thanks! I hate the look of the Despoiler (and Marauders, btw) so I'll hardly buy one.

My biggest issue with DzC seems to be that I hate the look of the factions that seems to have an interesting game-style (Scourge, Shaltari), while to ones I love the look of (UCM, PHR) looks boring to play ^^;
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